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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1128

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Can anyone tell me if your aloud to have a f/stay that can be tensioned during a race? Kev Butler
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1129

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Have a look at Rule 3.10
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1130

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Thanks
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1131

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Which version of the Rules are we using?

Rule 3.10 in the version posted on the website (Info, Blaze Info, Rules) is all about battens....

If there is a later version of the Rules, could someone send it to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. so that the site can be updated?

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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1132

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My mistake.

The Rules have two 3.10s.... :unsure:
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1133

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Interestingly this is the first time I remember ever looking at our rules, and this has come up

3.6 The choice of rudder stock and tiller is unrestricted – however these must be made from aluminium alloy or stainless steel.

Didn't some of the prizes at Burghfield, and not being there but i guess Warsash include Carbon tillers? I am sure that Mike (hoping he can clarify?) was using one at Lymington on his tiller?

PS. Yes I had always assumed you can adjust your fore stay whilst racing, but it is in the rules that I have now found.. But I have to say I have never really seen the need to, I know Miles does regularly but he is one of the minority

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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1135

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If you are above a certain weight which I think may be in the region of 12.5 stone helms seem to have the mass (I am trying to phrase this politely) to get the rig to work in all conditions at full stiffness.

However and speaking for myself at 10 3/4 stone I could not possibly manage a fully tensioned rig with the wind above 13 knots.

Tightening and easing the forestay enables one to control mast bend: tighten and you stiffen the mast, ease and you allow the mast to bend more; this is a very useful tool with which to tune the boat to the conditions.

I am not sure where the weight watershed lies, I know Peter Barton adjusts his forestay and he is towards the top end of 11 stone.

There is no black art to adjusting the forestay to the conditions. Set your rig tension to 15 on the Loos gauge, it is unlikely you will ever want to go tighter than this (you will just bend the hull). Go sailing and assuming the breeze is 15 knots and above go on the wind. Does she feel sweet or are you tending to pinch up in the gusts and the rig feel choked up?

If the latter try easing forestay tension a little, how does she feel now? Persevere and you will hit the sweet spot. Record the setting. If the wind increases ease more etc, record again.

Easing the forestay will reduce your ability to point but the technique is to sail low and fast. Bear off in the gusts - do not pinch. When you get it right the boat is a darling.

Myles 7571
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1138

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I think he's calling me fat! :-D
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1139

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Dear Wizsplash.

I have always assumed you are nothing but toned muscle.

Yours, Myles
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1140

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Well if the XXL Hikers fit all your relaxed muscle
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1141

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Hi Ian,

Re post #1133. You seem to be confusing tillers with tiller extensions.

Regards,

Laurence 795
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fore stay tensioner 3 years 6 months ago #1142

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Hi Laurence,
There were definitely carbon tillers not tiller extensions being handed out as prizes. Personally for the extra nano gram weight saving I'd rather have a black ally one to sit on and bend!
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Mike Holmes
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