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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 1 month ago #176

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Netting is good - very light, you can put a foot on it in the light stuff without having to look down, low windage, not expensive etc etc. It is a fiddle to fit and adjust the first time but once it's done it's done.

I don't find it has to be ultra tight - normal pull out the wings tension is fine.

Sticking the tiller extension through it is no problem: in my experience you do it twice each time producing the most dramatic capsize much to everyone else's delight and then you know never ever to do it again; simple!

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 weeks ago #199

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Spotted this on eBay for those who wish to go fishing with nets...



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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 weeks ago #200

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Along with Ian Clark, I have used Cargo Netting, it's more substantial than pulpit netting. The supplier is allplas based in Letchworth.

I used the 45mm x 4.5mm knotless with a border They have made a number of sets so they may have the measurements and will make them to size. Yo can choose from a variety of colours

If I remember rightly, they cost around £60/70 for a set of two. Go to Allpas.co.uk

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 2 days ago #274

Many thanks to all who have contributed, I got mine sorted out about a month ago, and have found it great so far.
My results also seem to have gone upwards recently (apart from Northampton)!
Obviously not as a direct result unfortunately...
I seriously would recommend the netting to anybody interested though, once you've got it sorted it really is much better!

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 11 months ago #319

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Got any pictures of it Ben? My boat is a similar age to yours so I'd be interested to see how different your boat is. Mine doesn't have the original tramps but neither does it have ones that sound like yours.
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 11 months ago #325

Sorry, I haven't got any photos at the minute.
There's one of me looking like an idiot at the Dash here:
www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/161763/2012-Draycote-Dash

You can't see a great deal, but you can see how it's fed through the outer tube.

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 6 months ago #623

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After seeing the netting on your boat at the nationals and tearing my tramps on the Sturdsay of the nationals, I have gone ahead and purchased a set from Alplas.(Be aware they do not have templates so if your are thinking of purchasing these nets Steve @ Alplas may well ask for a template or drawing). Getting back to your boat Paul I saw how you had attached them to the carbon tube of the racks and down the extending tubes, am I correct with the following, have you attached the edge that runs parallel with the gunnell on to fibreglass rod and obtained the tention by using the 4mm lines off the gunnell and back around the rod ? do I need to drill further holes forward of the exsisting holes for the tramps to take up the "hole" that the exsisting tramps create.Hope you can follow this. In essence do you have any photos of finished item, I do not want to go drilling holes if there is a more simple way to get the tention on the nets.
Any help with this would be appreciated.

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 6 months ago #624

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Hi Steve,

Trust all well with you.

Netting tramps were already fitted to the boat when I bought it, I bought the current netting from Alplas. The boat is already packed up for Camel Week and down at the Sailing Club so I can't provide any photos at this stage.

I am sure you will need to drill at least one new set of holes toward the front racks. The rest of the description you have about right. If you have the time come up to Rock during next week and you can see for yourself. Maybe you can get some time to sail on Sat (start 10:45) or Sun(start 1.00p.m.)

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 6 months ago #630

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Morning Paul

All is well down here in Cornwall.
I thought holes would have to be drilled but just wanted to make sure before attacking with the drill.

I would love to have attended Camel week, Roger has been trying to get me over to Rock to sample the delights of the North Coast for most of the season. Unfortunatley I cannot attend as we have a wedding up in the Midlands on Saturday and then onwards for a week with our son up in Kendal on family duty as we have not seen him since new year.
According to Roger it looks to be a good turn out from the Blaze fleet, hope you all have good winds and not so much of the "Liquid" sunshine of late.
Looking forward to the inlands, so may be able to check then that I have attached the nets in the correct manner.

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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 3 weeks ago #824

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HI guys,
Would anyone be able to post some photos of their netting setups?
A couple of us with new boats coming B) are interested in seeing the different solutions and all the Felpham boats currently have standard tramps. Appreciate they are all pretty similar, but it would be good to have some recent pics.
Cheers,
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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 3 weeks ago #827

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Howdy Guy,

I too am switching to netting and have ordered some from allplas (who have the Blaze shape stored and with a quick email can sort you out).

Not done mine yet but standard practice seems to be to use the current gunnel holes to tie a plastic rod to the gunnel and thread the netting through that, then wind a line around the outer tube (through the netting) to secure the other side.

Not tried myself yet, as I say.

Looking forward to sticking the tiller extension through the net though. I imagine it's the kind of thing that you only do once.
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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 3 weeks ago #830

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I will take some pictures over the weekend of my nets, they are the ones Allplas has a template of, and so far I think there are about half a dozen of us with them fitted now.

Very easy to do once you have figured it out and had a play! the hardest bit was the inboard forward fixing a little trial and error sorted that!

I used a piece of 6mm Rod batten down the side of the gunnels, laced to the hull, I needed 2 extra holes forward to combat the deck shape, then I used 3 separate bits of string to lace the sides and the rack, this just made it easier to tension and adjust, although having done it once I am confident next time I could get away with a single piece of rope.

Pictures will explain better, let it finish raining, find some will helpers to get my boat down from the top of the double stacker and I will photo away

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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 5 years 3 weeks ago #832

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Jonathon, Ian, thanks for your replies.
Sure it's all pretty straightforward, but whilst we have a good fleet (none with nets, yet) at Felpham and me being your Race Officer at the 2011 nationals, I never got to take a close look at the boats.
Will get an order in with Allplas along with some other little tweaks I have in mind so I'm all set to get the new ship on the water asap :)
Cheers,
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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 4 years 11 months ago #896

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So I am preparing to perform the netting conversion, the only bit of information I'm missing is the length of the rod batten needed, in other words the length of the wings. You can order the battens from P&B (Bainbridge rod batten 5mm), carriage is, predictably, extortionate, but the rods themselves are very cheap, £3.50 a meter.

So, how long are the Blaze wings, anyone? Can't get to mine to measure atm, sadly.

Jon
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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 4 years 10 months ago #901

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Hi Jonathon,
Think you need to order 2 x 3m lengths of rod batten. I believe the outer tube is 2.4m. Plenty of places online to buy from. I'm ordering from these guys... www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/p-1821-bl...ass-rod-4mm-dia.aspx
or may drop by one of the local sail/cover makers as they may have it in stock.
Cheers,
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