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Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #55

Hi All,

All the chase members are intending on putting netting onto their racks rather than the usual tramps.
We have got the netting needed from Christian, however we still need the rod to attach it to.
Anybody know where to get this from, and what diameter?
Any hints especially on putting it onto a MK1?


Many thanks, Ben P. (595) B)
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #56

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Do you have to use rod? It may be possible to wind 3mm polypropylene around your outermost strand to give the strength you need for binding to the gunwale/tubes. I use cricket netting which has been over-locked around the edge and simply bind as above - BUT the squares are 40mm and I seem to remember Christian's are larger and so my idea may not work effectively for you.

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #58

Thanks Myles,

The way we have seen it done, mainly on Christian's and Martin Saveker's is to slot the tubing through the netting on the outside, and then put a rod through the inside edge to attach to the gunnel.
Personally I have never seen your idea done, and as it may not work we might avoid that one, but many thanks anyway.
Hopefully I think we will use Martins as a guide (not that he knows yet :whistle:), which would be ok for people with more modern racks, but the problems will come with the MK1 style ones.

Ben
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #61

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Ben,

I have changed mine to Netting last year, although a similar netting to Miles, I have used a Catamaran Tramp netting also 40mm holes and over locked and bound round the edge. It is held against the gunnel by using rod Batten.

You need to get a 6mm Rod Batten available from any friendly sail maker, normally sold in 5m lengths. Shouldn't be much more than £10 for the length.

I found that cut in half threaded alternately through, then held against the gunnel using some 3mm rope threaded through the existing tramp holes worked best

Hope that helps

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #63

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Hi Ben
just picked up on this sorry! Been enjoying myself a little too much over the festive period!!!

But Ian has hit the nail on the head, if you can't get hold of any 6mm Rod Batten give me a shout with how much you need and I will see if my Sail-making friend can supply you...

All the best
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #64

Hi All,

Many thanks Ian, that's great.
No worries Christian, we have been too!
Thanks, I will try and get some through our friend from Elite Sails first, but if all fails I'm sure we will take you up on the offer.

Regards, Ben
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #95

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go on internet and ssearch for 6mm fibreglass rod , olts of suppliers out there I got mine for £5.95 for 3m length from a supplier advertising on ebay
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #103

Ok, thanks.
Would it necessarily have to be 6mm?
I wouldn't think it would make too much difference, but could we get away with 5mm?
Only say this as it would save us quite a bit on p&p from a supplier we've found on ebay.

Regards, Ben.
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #104

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I would think 5mm should be ok
Martin

PS has your dad still got my long arm Riviters or has Gareth got them now?
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #105

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Ben,

As Martin says shouldn't make a difference, I am surprised you can't find it locally cheaper than even Ebay and save on the carriage! You have several people locally that will have in stock or can get it fast, have a quick call around people like Speed, SPB, Land and Marine plus many more, any cover maker or sail maker will have it available.

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #112

Thanks both,
It's just easier for us to get it off ebay as we have an account already.
Did you manage to get both racks out of the three metre length?

And Martin, Eden had them back to replace his kicker take off point, but it wouldn't fit and still has them. Sorry! :S

Regards, Ben.
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #113

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No and I suspect the Mk1 layout will need more than hte mk2/3s
You wil need to measure the gunwale lenght between the rack tubes to be sure. Have a look at mine on Saturday and see how I have done it if you want.
martin
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #119

Ok, cheers
That's what I was planning to do, but was being lazy!

Thanks all, Ben. :D
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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #174

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I've been watching the spread of netting through the fleet with interest.

Have you found it makes a big difference? I do occasionally find my self wanting to sit right in the "hole" between the front of the tramp and the wing so this would sort that nicely. The only thing is that I like my tramps super-tensioned (hate that feeling of sagging when you sit on them) and am concerned about how tight you can make the netting.

Also, has anybody stuck their tiller extension through it mid-gybe yet, and if you have...how did that go?

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Re: Replacement of Tramps with Netting 6 years 4 months ago #175

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I used to be of the super tight tramp fraternity but do not find the netting uncomforatbly saggy
Yes I have stuck the tiller throough the netting but you soon learn not to
I did a quick fit on 774 when the tramps broke and now am ready to do a decent job on them.

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